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Saturday, January 28, 2012
SNGF ~ My Maternal Grandfather’s Paternal Line
This week’s challenge is to try to find a potential candidate for a Y-DNA test in your matrilineal line – There are three steps on this train ride.
What was your mother’s father’s name?
o Ernest William Lidman (1903–1967) was born in Lake Mary, Minnesota. At a little over one year old, he moved with his parents to Washington. He had one brother Milton Theodore Lidman (1905-1936). Ernest's mother died soon after Milton’s birth and their father left the baby with his wife’s sister Mattie and returned to Minnesota with my grandfather. Although Milton married he did not have any children and he died at an early age.
· What is your mother’s father’s patrilineal line? (That is, his father’s father’s father’s ... back to the most distant male ancestor in that line.)
o Ernest’s father was Louis Lidman (1860-1926) christened Lars Elofsson and born in Fastnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden. He was an only son (he had four sisters). Louis came to the USA with his parents and sisters and lived in Minnesota. He married in Minnesota, but soon moved with his wife to Washington. Upon her untimely death, Louis moved himself and his oldest son (my grandfather) back to Minnesota, and finally homesteaded in North Dakota, where he lived with his son and father until his death.
o Louis’ father was Elof Lidman 1833-1922) christened Elof Larsson and born in Fastnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden. He was also an only son (he had two sisters, 2 half sisters and 1 half brother – different father). Elof came to the USA with his family and settled in Minnesota. He later moved to North Dakota to live with his son and grandson. Upon his death his body was returned to Minnesota to be buried with his wife at Hylunda Cemetery in Wright County, Minnesota.
o Elof’s father Lars Elofsson (1806-1838) was born and lived his life in Fastnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden as a tenant farmer. Lars was one of four sons, his three brothers were:
§ Anders Elofsson (1786-1795) died as a child
§ Per Elofsson (1789-1838) – he married and had seven sons
§ Lars Elofsson (1797-??) he never married or had children
o Lars’ father Elof Persson (1761-1827) was born and lived his life in Fastnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden. Elof was one of three sons, his two brothers were:
§ Pehr Persson (1752-)
§ Jöns Persson (1757-1829) who had three sons
o Elof’s father Pehr Elofsson (1720-1791) was born and lived his life in Nedre Värnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden. Pehr was one of two sons, his brother was:
§ Lars Elofsson (1725-??) I have not found a marriage or any children to-date.
o Pehr’s father Elof Gudmundsson (1692-1754) was born and lived his life in Nedre Värnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden. He was the only child (I have found to-date) of Gudmund Elofsson.
· Can you identify male sibling(s) of your mother's father, and any living male descendants from those male sibling(s)? If so, you have a candidate to do a Y-DNA test on that patrilineal line. If not, you may have to find male siblings, and their descendants, of the next generation back, or even further.
o It appears from this exercise that my best choices come from Pehr Elofsson or Jöns Persson (to-date it appears this Persson family remained in Sweden and I don’t have the research done on them yet).
o Pehr Elofsson’s sons were:
§ Elof Persson (1819-??)
§ Pehr Persson (1821-??)
§ Anders Persson (1824-??)
§ Lars Persson (1826-1911) He was born in Fastnäs, Norra Ny, Värmlands län, Sweden, married in Sweden in 1856 and came to the USA in 1869. He had two sons:
· Per Larsson (1860-1929)
· Lars Persson (1845-??) who did not marry or have children
§ Jon Persson (1831-??)
§ Jöns Persson (1835-??)
§ Halfvard Persson (1836-1925)
o Per Larsson had 3 sons (and two daughters):
§ Oscar Ludwig Larson (1892-1964) who did not marry or have children
§ Frederick Wilhem Larson (1894-1981) who married in 1937 but I don’t have any other information – waiting on the 1940 US Census
§ August Julius Larson (1896-1971) who had two sons both of whom are alive.
· Male Larson – living, did not marry or have children
· Male Larson – living who married and has one son
o Male Larson – living who married and has two sons and one daughter.
§ Male Larson
§ Male Larson
· Is this is correct? Randy since this is Swedish research I think my head will explode! But, if this is correct, I wrote a post about My Very Best Genealogy Adventure (my summertime serendipity). I actually met both these boys and their great uncle while cemetery sleuthing in Wright County, Minnesota. And now I know who would be great candidates for that Y-DNA test for my mother’s maiden name. Please check my work and let me know if I took the right train and am on the right track. Thanks Randy.